Mga Cebuano proud ba ni Winston Garcia?

[godsaint]

Proud ko.Sayunan ka klaro na kaau iyang panikas naa gyapon siya sa pwesto.lol Murag tuko ang kapit.Saludo ko.

[worldwide]

if Meralco and ERC can say that the electric charges are legal. Who do we blame then? we go back to the Epira law that allowed Meralco to make these charges. ask your government and congress why they allowed it.
Going back to Winston G, if he wants to reduce electricity rate, he should target everyone involved in making the rates higher including the government he serve.

[xxkatgorgeousxx]

Quote: Originally Posted by giddyboy Winston Garcia does not own GSIS or GSIS's 30% share in Meralco. He is only the president of GSIS appointed by PGMA. if we say makuha/macontrol sa GSIS ang Meralco, makatag-iya c Winston? or perhaps c PGMA? u mean cla gyud personal owners? lagpasa oi...

mao na akong gi-mean bro..sorry kung dili klaro akong gi-mean..

ang point ra man nako is: if Winston Garcia can't clean up GSIS' mess, ngano hilabtan pa man niya ang Meralco? he should clean up his department first, before the others..even pa tingali mu-ingon ka na naa right si Garcia as president of GSIS na manghilabot sa Meralco tungod sa ila shares, dapat niya i-prioritize ang problema sa GSIS first. Mao ra na akong i-point out. Peace.

[giddyboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxkatgorgeousxx mao na akong gi-mean bro..sorry kung dili klaro akong gi-mean.. ang point ra man nako is: if Winston Garcia can't clean up GSIS' mess, ngano hilabtan pa man niya ang Meralco? he should clean up his department first, before the others..even pa tingali mu-ingon ka na naa right si Garcia as president of GSIS na manghilabot sa Meralco tungod sa ila shares, dapat niya i-prioritize ang problema sa GSIS first. Mao ra na akong i-point out. Peace.

do u mean that tungod ky ni-enter cya anang Meralco case iya na gibiyaan ang pag manage sa GSIS? i don't think so. he can do both. and actually, both are part of his job.

when tackling a problem, u don't have to do one first and if solved, u then go to the next one. Management is not like that. Otherwise, abtan ka ug siyam siyam. Instead, u tackle all the problems u can see and make action plans on them on how to solve them. if Winston sees that there is still some problems w/ the ATM system or releasing of pensions to pensioners, well, he sees that alright but that doesn't mean he has to focus all his energy in to it. there are other "problems" to take care of. Like i said, GSIS's stake in Meralco is one of them big time. Corporate problems are not always financial or operational. Sometimes it's POLITICAL.

Though i don't know exactly what GSIS's priorities are but i'm pretty sure that any major shareholdings that GSIS holds is always a top priority. why? kanang mga contributions pre, dili rana sa banko mo landig. A large part of the money is being invested like in the stock market for example.

AFAIK, in an organization like GSIS, there are main divisions that goes like these:

OPERATIONS - that's where we find things like personnel, logistics, other services, etc. this is also where we find the IT dep't. what does a president of GSIS do about this division? he has his Operations Manager to take care of this.

MARKETING - that's where we find those that pertains to info ads and customer service, etc. And what does a president of GSIS do about this division? he has a Mktg Manager to take care of this.

FINANCE - that's where we find things such as financial analyses, accounting, and investments, etc. And what does a president of GSIS do about this division? He has a Finance Manager to take care of these.

my point is, Winston is not the whole GSIS. He only represents GSIS when deemed necessary like the Meralco stockholders meeting for example. Aside from that job, he delegates his tasks as what any manager would do. Any changes that will be made w/ the system, he has to consult all under him (including advisers and consultants) before agreeing & applying it.

u know what, this is just like the case of a respectable father who wants his child's school PTA to explain the association's accounting of funds. or shall we say that he boldly wishes to run for the PTA next presidency coz he & some of the members are dissatisfied w/ the current president's performance who wants to run again also. now if we dig into more detail, the parents have difficulty disciplining their child at home. so now, can we say that he has to clean up his act as a parent first before meddling even sa PTA? i don't think so. he has every right as a member of the PTA.

i'm sorry for the long litany of arguments but i hope u get my point somehow...peace.

[godwhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxkatgorgeousxx mao na akong gi-mean bro..sorry kung dili klaro akong gi-mean.. ang point ra man nako is: if Winston Garcia can't clean up GSIS' mess, ngano hilabtan pa man niya ang Meralco? he should clean up his department first, before the others..even pa tingali mu-ingon ka na naa right si Garcia as president of GSIS na manghilabot sa Meralco tungod sa ila shares, dapat niya i-prioritize ang problema sa GSIS first. Mao ra na akong i-point out. Peace.

Bro sa mga corporate issues gud naa ang powerplay. You can acquire more assets without spending anything to do clean up in you backyar much better. Pareho ra bro ug daku kag yuta pero puro kalibunan. Pero way magpugong nimo ug imong padak-an imong yuta bisan wala nimo limpyohe.

Ang importante kinsa tong makahatag ug ubos nga power rate adtu ko. Unsa-on ko man nang Meralco kung taas gyud ilang rate sa koryente. Ug makahatag ug ubos si Winston, adtu nalang ko kay daku gud na ug apektar labi na gyud ug pananglitan ron daku akong pabrika unya dagku ko ug kunsumo sa kuryente. Ingon ana na sa negosyo bro gamitun natu atong utok ug unya ra ang dughan. Ug moingon ron ang Meralco nga mas ubos pa gyud ila kang Winston, di balik na sad kos Meralko. hehe. simple lang di ba?

[godwhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by giddyboy u know what, this is just like the case of a respectable father who wants his child's school PTA to explain the association's accounting of funds. or shall we say that he boldly wishes to run for the PTA next presidency coz he & some of the members are dissatisfied w/ the current president's performance who wants to run again also. now if we dig into more detail, the parents have difficulty disciplining their child at home. so now, can we say that he has to clean up his act as a parent first before meddling even sa PTA? i don't think so. he has every right as a member of the PTA. i'm sorry for the long litany of arguments but i hope u get my point somehow...peace.

Bro, you hit the right nail in the head. AMEN to that! Daghan man gud dire bro wa kaayo makasabut unsa ang word nga positioning sa corporate world.

[giddyboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by godwhacker Bro sa mga corporate issues gud naa ang powerplay. Ang importante kinsa tong makahatag ug ubos nga power rate adtu ko. Unsa-on ko man nang Meralco kung taas gyud ilang rate sa koryente. Ug makahatag ug ubos si Winston, adtu nalang ko kay daku gud na ug apektar labi na gyud ug pananglitan ron daku akong pabrika unya dagku ko ug kunsumo sa kuryente. Ingon ana na sa negosyo bro gamitun natu atong utok ug unya ra ang dughan. Ug moingon ron ang Meralco nga mas ubos pa gyud ila kang Winston, di balik na sad kos Meralko. hehe. simple lang di ba?

korekek!!! u hit the nail right at the spot...sa negosyo una ang utok before ang dughan. kung asa mas barato pero parehas ra ang serbisyo, of course adto jud ko. what more if mka provide pa ug mas better quality.

Unless u r a Meralco shareholder, we have to look at the Meralco issue as a CUSTOMER. As the saying goes, "The customer is always right."

[godwhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by worldwide Going back to Winston G, if he wants to reduce electricity rate, he should target everyone involved in making the rates higher including the government he serve.

Bro, that would be disastrous. You don't bite the hands that feed you. Bisag kinsa bro basta naa naka sa maung position lisud moasdang sa mga tawo nga maoy naghatag nimo sa maong posisyon.

Ang maayo unta imbestigahon unta nila ning grupo nila ni Albano kay mora man ug inutil kaayo ni sila. Akong paminaw on the take man ni sila sa Meralco. Tan-awa o dugay nang dunay desisyon sa Supreme court ug na final na gani nga kinahanglan mo refund ang Meralco sa ilang pag overcharge pero hangtud ron wa man gyud matuman. Unya karon nga nagubot na sad karon pa moingon si Albano nga karong sunod semana nila i release ang guidlines parte anang refund. Kana unta sila maoy imbetigahon sa SEnado.

[johnny22aa]

about that article arroyo-lopez war? di ko motoo ana. the lopez are in the media. they are good in hyping.

[giddyboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by godwhacker Bro, you hit the right nail in the head. AMEN to that! Daghan man gud dire bro wa kaayo makasabut unsa ang word nga positioning sa corporate world.

mao gyud...cge nlng ila man sab na...welcome to the club bro!!!

[godwhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by infoseeker What would VECO -- and Winston Garcia -- stand to gain if Meralco were broken up into smaller companies?

Unfortunately, the author Perry Diaz didn't answer the question in his own article. Maayo unta to ug nihatag siya nato ug iyang analysis.

[worldwide]

Quote: Originally Posted by godwhacker Bro, that would be disastrous. You don't bite the hands that feed you. Bisag kinsa bro basta naa naka sa maung position lisud moasdang sa mga tawo nga maoy naghatag nimo sa maong posisyon.

In that case, Winston is acting on the wishes of his patron and NOT on the interest of the Meralco customers.

[godwhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by worldwide In that case, Winston is acting on the wishes of his patron and NOT on the interest of the Meralco customers.

Bro wether he is acting for the Arroyos or not so long as he can reduce the power rate per his promise, well and good. Di nato kaayo dib dibon ang politics kay after all ang importante man nga mominos ang bayranan sa atong montly bill. I don't care about their powerplay diha bro. Bahala sila ug mangalata sila pero ako maoy naka pabor kay ang ako ra gusto nga mogamay akong bayranan sa kuryente. Let them devour it's other kay inig kahuman ari man ang pabor nako as a consumer.

[tinsi]

I am not in favor of GSIS wresting control of MERALCO. The power business itself requires the experience in running certain critical parts of it. What in Garcia's resume' qualifies him to take over the management? If certain individuals think that there is overpricing in MERALCO's charges to its customers than COA should go ahead and audit MERALCO's passed on costs as the ERC ordered.

Everyone, even an institution that is charged is presumed innocent until proven guilty. To me with no concrete evidence coming from the Lopez's detractors all of this is a an all out GRAB of someone else's legitimate business. Kung ikaw sukad sa panahon sa imong lolo gi bubo na sa inyong pamilya ang tanang kahago ug palambo sa kumpanya unya tumo tumo-an lang ka ug istorya arun malabni gikan nimo ang imong hinaguan sugot ka?

[worldwide]

Quote: Originally Posted by godwhacker Bro, you hit the right nail in the head. AMEN to that! Daghan man gud dire bro wa kaayo makasabut unsa ang word nga positioning sa corporate world.

Bro, i hope you don't underestimate the appreciation of the situation by other istoryans. Their opinion may differ to yours but that doesn't mean they don't have a good grasp of what is really happening.

re positioning in the corporate world, a takeover does not always guarantee that it would benefit the customers. besides, the government is not known be good in running a business especially power generation/distribution, the people always end up subsidizing the inefficiencies of the government, ex: napocor.