Hydroponics

[Jeffrey Arrogante]

Makapalit ba ta ug grow beds dri Cebu? Or pariha pariha ani

[jackdi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffrey Arrogante Makapalit ba ta ug grow beds dri Cebu? Or pariha pariha ani

Its made of fiberglass man, di bah?
You can have it fabricated Sir. Naa daghan makabuhat ana.
Be sure to mention lang jud sa fabricator nga you want a "UV stabilized"(as stated in the source website) box/container. Aron ila pakusgan ang mixture.
More or less, UV Stabilized Fiberglass i think is the same type used in life rafts and some small boats.
You can customized jud the size and shape that you want.

You are in Tabogon man, di bah.
You should have passed by a lot of fiberglass casters/fabricators along the national hi-way.
Mura daghan ko nakit-an along Dawis Sur, Carmen and in Magui, Compostela.
Try to inquire from there.


I hope this helps.
Good Luck!

Please post some more ideas.

[jackdi]

Sir Jeff^

Karon ra nako napansin, the actual Aquaponics that you are planning is actually just like the Drip System that Sir Soggy made at page 2, minus the nutes lang. Am i correct?

Kay ingon ani man ang setup >>

Just a comment Sir, i believe the fishes that you would want to grow in the lower tub will not grow as fast even if its hybrid. Kay gamay ra man ang ila space. So, ang "fish" are just to eliminate the nutes. Sakto bah? Dili ba na mas medyo troublesome compared to direct hydroponics?

He-he-he! Just thinking aloud Sir ha.
I want to learn man god... i hope you guys don't mind me asking a lot of questions.

[kenny_tiu7]

by eliminating the nutes what do you mean by that sir? i think ang mga tae and urine sa isda maka add pod sa nutes but maybe it will make you nute mixture unstable.

[jackdi]

Quote: Originally Posted by kenny_tiu7 by eliminating the nutes what do you mean by that sir? i think ang mga tae and urine sa isda maka add pod sa nutes but maybe it will make you nute mixture unstable.

Yes Sir Ken, mao na ako sabot.
You dont want to add nutes on the fish pond, are you?
...and unstable natural nutes from the fish is also an issue jud(i guess).
But i think that is the main purpose of the fish in aquaponics, and not really the fish harvest (in addition to the veggies). Kay mura'g dili man dali motubo ang mga fish ana bisag hybrid pa na.

[Jeffrey Arrogante]

@sir jackdi

tanx again sa imo info... d ba kaha mahal compare sa kanang plastic barrel nga tunga-on pairha ani


6 months pwede na ma harvest ang tilapia basta maayo imo feeding ug filtering + aeration
ang advice sa BFAD kay 3 tilapia per m3 (natural pond), pero ang sa UVI system kay ila 50-70 tilapia per m3

[jackdi]

ahihihi!
Sir Jeff, i was about to suggest the same containers.
If you really like that, mapalit na nimo sa mga junkshops at prices from P200 to P500 each, kanang mga barela (220L man siguro capacity ana).

But i was thinking nga naa na kay ingon ana nga setup, then you wanted to upgrade na to a more commercialized setup.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffrey Arrogante @sir jackdi ...6 months pwede na ma harvest ang tilapia basta maayo imo feeding ug filtering + aeration ang advice sa BFAD kay 3 tilapia per m3 (natural pond), pero ang sa UVI system kay ila 50-70 tilapia per m3...

Sir, if BFAD said nga there should be 3 tilapia per cubic meter, then 1 tilapia would need 333L of water space. Using that barel nga 200L, kulang man.... nya tungaon pa jud .... ...am i correct? Mura'g dili jud na nimo magamit Sir.

...hhmmm....Bottom line would end up using the fish as nutes provider rather than for fish harvest later.

[Soggy2]

woo. aquaponics. Wala ko naka research ani na subject. wala gi mention na dapat mag add pa ug ferts? I dont see where the plants will be getting the trace elements like Fe,Cu,Mo etc.

I think ang main produce sa aquaponics kay ang fish gyud. murag second lang ang veggies.

@kenny, dako na ang razzleberry ug sugary nimo? wala man ni ayo diri sa ako. grabe ka stunted then mo blossom drop. I think i will switch to eggplants na lang kay na discourage na ko aning kamatis.

@agoroy, dili man effective ang neem leaves extract sa ako. naa man gihapon daghan pests. basi effective lang siya sa katong mo kaon gyud sa dahon like the cucurbit beetle, dili sa sap suckers.

[jackdi]

Mga Bossing!
I want to try to help you with your "nutes" supply problem. Even the verms and leca balls tingali and other supplies if you want. Even seeds.... Even complete setups.. pero kamo ra ang mo-setup ha, dili ako...

Pwede ninyo list down kung unsa ngainyo requirements diri?
Like unsa nga nutes? Premixed solution? Potting media? or anything nga inyo kinahanglan.
Please specify pod ang quantity nga inyo possible nga order'on og.

-----Nutes/Items ----- Qty ----- Unit of Measure ----- Expected Price per Unit -----

I have not called any suppliers yet. But i have my eye on LUSHgro products.
Are you guys using these?

Here is an example of what i have in mind:
....Vermiculite nga 1L is P80; if 10L is P630 nalang.
....LECA Balls nga about 2L is P145; if 4L is P288, if 10L is P650 nalang.
....LUSHGro nga 250mL is P290; if 500mL is P450; if 1L is P720 nalang... set A & B na ni.

One thing lang pod is by 3rd week of December pa maabot sa Cebu ang mga items.
Just tell me what you need nga wala sa Cebu, and i'll see what i can do.

What do you guys think?


PS: Mga MODS, nag-canvass pa ko ha if feasible ba ni... I'll post nalang at buy & sell if klaro na ni. Tnx.

[Soggy2]

Quote: Originally Posted by jackdi Mga Bossing! I want to try to help you with your "nutes" supply problem. Even the verms and leca balls tingali and other supplies if you want. Even seeds.... Even complete setups.. pero kamo ra ang mo-setup ha, dili ako... Pwede ninyo list down kung unsa ngainyo requirements diri? Like unsa nga nutes? Premixed solution? Potting media? or anything nga inyo kinahanglan. Please specify pod ang quantity nga inyo possible nga order'on og. -----Nutes/Items ----- Qty ----- Unit of Measure ----- Expected Price per Unit ----- I have not called any suppliers yet. But i have my eye on LUSHgro products. Are you guys using these? Here is an example of what i have in mind: ....Vermiculite nga 1L is P80; if 10L is P630 nalang. ....LECA Balls nga about 2L is P145; if 4L is P288, if 10L is P650 nalang. ....LUSHGro nga 250mL is P290; if 500mL is P450; if 1L is P720 nalang... set A & B na ni. One thing lang pod is by 3rd week of December pa maabot sa Cebu ang mga items. Just tell me what you need nga wala sa Cebu, and i'll see what i can do. What do you guys think? PS: Mga MODS, nag-canvass pa ko ha if feasible ba ni... I'll post nalang at buy & sell if klaro na ni. Tnx.

@jackdi, pa quote ko. perlite, "sequestrene 330 fe" and some heat tolerant tomato seeds. thanks!

[agoroy]

nice na jackdi ... kas man gud ni sa oras mag mix n try pa ta sa nutes ...
basta di lang tantong mahal .. oks ra kaayo ng ready made.

regarding seeds, daghan namaligya sa carbon.

i buy seeds from seedbase.com .. naa na sila dealers sa carbon.

@soggy, tan-awa daw ngari kung naa kay ganahan na variety .:: HARBEST AgriBusiness Corp. ::. pili lang daghan kay usahay sa carbon pila ra ka variety per crop ang ilang baligya.
Product Catalogue : PH

am into agri-business diay hehehe. ginagmay ra gud. i do contract farming with few selected crops.
this is one of my produced


pero kaning garden-garden sa kilid balay .. lingaw lingaw jud ni nako.

basin ganahan sad mo mo enter aning negosyoha.

[Soggy2]

Quote: Originally Posted by agoroy regarding seeds, daghan namaligya sa carbon. i buy seeds from seedbase.com .. naa na sila dealers sa carbon. @soggy, tan-awa daw ngari kung naa kay ganahan na variety .:: HARBEST AgriBusiness Corp. ::. pili lang daghan kay usahay sa carbon pila ra ka variety per crop ang ilang baligya. Product Catalogue : PH

@agoroy, asa sa carbon? wala pud ko ka sabot. hehehe
bali, naay vendors selling seeds didto; seedlings, or fruits na?

Naka agi ko once pero wala may ayo ilang seeds baligya. naay katong eastwest seed na maxima, which is geared for production and im afraid will taste like cardboard. hehehe. Pang own consumption pa man gud akong goal for now. Nag test pa pud ko sa viability aning hydro dri sa cebu.

Kaning "harbest" pud bah, how do i order their seeds? wala man gud pud ordering system via internet.

sorry daghan ko pangutana kay panagsa rako mo adtu carbon.

[agoroy]

@soggy, kanang mga link akong gihatag naa na ilang mga produkto sa carbon ... i don't know the name of the shops. but i know there are 3 shops that sells agricultural supplies nga naa sa carbon.

am not sure kung progreso street ha ... magsuroy suroy raman gud ko ngadto.

naa sad sa pacifica agrivet ... manalili man tingali ng pacifica.

[jackdi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Soggy2 @jackdi, pa quote ko. perlite, "sequestrene 330 fe" and some heat tolerant tomato seeds. thanks!

Boss Soggy, here are the prices:
-- Perlite -- P55/liter
-- LUSHGro - Rexolin D11 (11% chelated iron) -- P300/100g
-- LUSHGro - Rexolin D11 (13% chelated iron) -- P350/100g
-- Sweet Chelsea Cherry tomato from USA -- P350/20seeds only

Ang imo "sequestrene 330 fe" is 10% chelated iron man na noh?
What they have here is 11% & 13% chelated iron man.

For the Tomato Seeds, i suggest anha nalang palit Sir. Mura mahal man diri.

...again, products will be available in December pa. Ig-abot nako diha.


Salamat.

[jackdi]

Quote: Originally Posted by agoroy nice na jackdi ... kas man gud ni sa oras mag mix n try pa ta sa nutes ... basta di lang tantong mahal .. oks ra kaayo ng ready made. regarding seeds, daghan namaligya sa carbon. i buy seeds from "seedbase.com" .. naa na sila dealers sa carbon. @soggy, tan-awa daw ngari kung naa kay ganahan na variety "harbest.com.ph" pili lang daghan kay usahay sa carbon pila ra ka variety per crop ang ilang baligya. "eastwestseed.com" am into agri-business diay hehehe. ginagmay ra gud. i do contract farming with few selected crops. this is one of my produced pero kaning garden-garden sa kilid balay .. lingaw lingaw jud ni nako. basin ganahan sad mo mo enter aning negosyoha.

Nindot kay naa diay tay available nga stores for "seeds". He-he-he! Check nya nako.

BeetRoot na imo produce?
Very nice!
Daghan diay mopalit ana sa ato?

By the way Sir Agoroy, unsaon na pag-contract farming?
Pwede ta makahibaw? Or maybe, contract farming under you?

Tnx.