Bible Fanatic

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by SioDenz and How did you know that? inborn knowledge? or you learned it from someones book?

I learned that Through REASONING and not by FAITH nga gikan sa inyong mga pastors and priests!

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by SioDenz How about the question, Are you a theosophy fanatic?

I am a lover of wisdom not theosophy fanatic!

[chad_tukes]

Quote: Originally Posted by rcruman So meaning naa kay imong GOD, different sa AMOA? DID our GOD said that He's Anthropomorphic? or its just people like you who define it? Peace!

are you claiming that your God is the real GOD? and that all other GODS are wrong? wait, is there such thing as correct and incorrect GOD? there must be a lot of GODS... so, which God are we supposed to believe? the God in the Bible?

[SioDenz]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld I learned that Through REASONING and not by FAITH nga gikan sa inyong mga pastors and priests!

Reasoning sa imu gipang kutlo sa sinulat sa lain lain authors?
then how can you be sure you are correct based on your so called reasoning when in fact imu mind has very limited information about everything?

is it okay to say na mu ingun ka you are correct sa imu universal truth pero you dont know anything about the entire universe? gi unsa pag buhat, unsa naa beyond ana?

my point is how can u be sure na your are correct and others are wrong about the truth when in fact ikaw ug ang uban dha same raman gigamit nga rason to know the truth which is REASONING gkan sa atu mga utok? do u imply mas utukan ka or mas nakasabot ka compare sa uban?

[SioDenz]

Quote: Originally Posted by regnauld I am a lover of wisdom not theosophy fanatic!

You sound like one...

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by SioDenz You sound like one...

I see. I respect your own opinion!

[regnauld]

Quote: Originally Posted by SioDenz Reasoning sa imu gipang kutlo sa sinulat sa lain lain authors? then how can you be sure you are correct based on your so called reasoning when in fact imu mind has very limited information about everything? is it okay to say na mu ingun ka you are correct sa imu universal truth pero you dont know anything about the entire universe? gi unsa pag buhat, unsa naa beyond ana? my point is how can u be sure na your are correct and others are wrong about the truth when in fact ikaw ug ang uban dha same raman gigamit nga rason to know the truth which is REASONING gkan sa atu mga utok? do u imply mas utukan ka or mas nakasabot ka compare sa uban?

Asa man diay ko mukotlo sa bible lang pirmi nga dili man ko bible fanatic pareha nimo?

Mao gani mo cite ta ug mga references to know para dili ta ma bias because that is a hallmark of CRITICAL THINKING and not only using one source like your bible! Did I also conlude that I am correct and you are wrong? We are here to study and find out THE TRUTH based from other sources and evidence.

Did I say that I know everything in the universe? Use your critical thinking my friend!

To tell you frankly I know so very little about the mysteries of life and the universe and I am here to just express what I have learned and express my points of view and it doesn't mean I am always right and you are wrong. I can also learn from you because you have something to teach here which I believe is also valuable.

[Existanz]

Quote: Originally Posted by miyay nganong makaulaw man ang way salig sa bible

This only applies to dillydallying christians...if you are not one then nganung maulaw man ka? The term Bible fanatic is a tool used to demean steadfast christians. The Bible claim that the only way to salvation is Christ, this of course a call to close one's mind against any other means of salvation- this a hard truth and a very uncomfortable one for people who tries to please everybody. In the Bible Jesus had said already that those who choose to believe in Him will be ridiculed and if one believes in Christ then there is really no shame in being called a Bible fanatic- it is to be expected.

Of course this applies only to non-christians labeling christians as Bible fanatic...if you are christian throwing this at your fellow christian then I think its time to meditate on your faith.

Quote: Originally Posted by miyay so, it's better to be close minded now

Regarding your faith? where would you put it if you're open minded? Someone once said that, "When people cease to believe in something they begin to believe in everything."

Open minded is like considering everything and ignoring something while a close minded considers only one thing and ignoring everything..they're both fanatics..hehehe (Just a joke)

[rcruman]

Quote: Originally Posted by chad_tukes are you claiming that your God is the real GOD? and that all other GODS are wrong? wait, is there such thing as correct and incorrect GOD? there must be a lot of GODS... so, which God are we supposed to believe? the God in the Bible?

of course! He is Real GOD.
I'm a fool if I believe on something which is not real.
Yes, He will not be called ALMIGHTY.
Yes there such thing correct and incorrect, True and False GOD in the bible, just read the bible.

In the bible, there are lots of "gods" not "GODS".
again read the bible and you will know the difference between "god" and "God".

The GOD in the bible is the True GOD.
If people won't believe Him in this lifetime, later or sooner they will know it, and its crucial on that day.

You can't make an excuses like "GOD I didn't know".

So if you're heart doesn't want to know HIM, then so be it as it may, enjoy what you believe, in the end it really matters.

Then what if you will say "RCRUMAN, there's no GOD", I will reply....

At least I didn't live a life that has fear to do evil to others.
At least I didn't live a life that is full of lies and sins.

Peace!

[jamesmusslewhite]

Yes Satan has made sure that there are many appealing gods, and plenty of feel good philosophies to confuse the masses. He even has man fooled that he does not exist, and only a 1,800 page book from you Creator and his son stands in his way to the total corruption of mankind. People do not want to hear about rules and that there has to be boundaries, and they do not want to read a book that tells them their life is wrong and they need to change. That is too much like work, and the easier ways are much smarter, and other lazy clever smart people will support you; then they can be even more lazy cleaver and smart.

They want to be told they are cleave and smart as they spiral towards eternal damnation. Yes they are just too clever for God and Christ, and they are too smart to learn his truth.

You are clever, smart, and funny so I am sure that when you finally face the god you really worship and follow; you will make him laugh because you are just so special. Yep, Satan will love to have your company in the pit, and he will be laughing at how easy he fooled you.

Me I am a Bible Fanatic, mainly because I have actually have a brain for myself and read the Bible for myself. I did not let ignorance stop me from learning. I opened my mind, heart, and kept my mouth closed. I did as the book instructed, and found faith. Think of me as stupid, dense, and close-minded. The truth is that is your title, and I am sorry for your ignorance. You are missing out on something incredible and pretty amazing, but that is your problem.

I am a Bible Fanatic, and thank GOD I am not you anymore. I have God, faith, salvation, and purpose. You are just a walking meatball with eyes and a bad attitude until you accept God. Walking meatballs do not deserve much respect, pity yes, respect not really. If that hurts someone's feeling, so what, read the Bible and stop being a meatball.

[chad_tukes]

Quote: Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite Yes Satan has made sure that there are many appealing gods, and plenty of feel good philosophies to confuse the masses. He even has man fooled that he does not exist, and only a 1,800 page book from you Creator and his son stands in his way to the total corruption of mankind. People do not want to hear about rules and that there has to be boundaries, and they do not want to read a book that tells them their life is wrong and they need to change. That is too much like work, and the easier ways are much smarter, and other lazy clever smart people will support you; then they can be even more lazy cleaver and smart.

on the contrary, a 1,800 book is so much easier to read; it's like reading a Harry Potter novel. it is easy to put your faith on a book and follow its rules. it is easy to believe that the universe was designed by a creator. the concept that GOD created everything and that every man has inherited in him an original sin is easy to believe than to question it. faith is easy; to believe is easy. a lot of things are easy only if you believe. you believe and you put faith on something and life is easier.

so to say that it is too much work and the easier ways are much smarter is like saying i won't go to college and just be home-schooled because college is too easy for my brain to handle. the lazy people are those who are satisfied with the answers that are fed unto them into which they do not have the capacity to question. it's easy to believe, but it's too much work to think. that's why 70% of the world population believe in GOD---because it's too much of a bother to THINK. we as a society are dumbing down, sad to say.

[schmuck]

Quote: Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite Yes Satan has made sure that there are many appealing gods, and plenty of feel good philosophies to confuse the masses. He even has man fooled that he does not exist, and only a 1,800 page book from you Creator and his son stands in his way to the total corruption of mankind. People do not want to hear about rules and that there has to be boundaries, and they do not want to read a book that tells them their life is wrong and they need to change. That is too much like work, and the easier ways are much smarter, and other lazy clever smart people will support you; then they can be even more lazy cleaver and smart. They want to be told they are cleave and smart as they spiral towards eternal damnation. Yes they are just too clever for God and Christ, and they are too smart to learn his truth. You are clever, smart, and funny so I am sure that when you finally face the god you really worship and follow; you will make him laugh because you are just so special. Yep, Satan will love to have your company in the pit, and he will be laughing at how easy he fooled you.

question,

how do you know that the "God" you currently believe in, is not one of Satan's tricks?
eng eng eng...

[jamesmusslewhite]

Quote: Originally Posted by chad_tukes on the contrary, a 1,800 book is so much easier to read; it's like reading a Harry Potter novel. it is easy to put your faith on a book and follow its rules. it is easy to believe that the universe was designed by a creator. the concept that GOD created everything and that every man has inherited in him an original sin is easy to believe than to question it. faith is easy; to believe is easy. a lot of things are easy only if you believe. you believe and you put faith on something and life is easier. so to say that it is too much work and the easier ways are much smarter is like saying i won't go to college and just be home-schooled because college is too easy for my brain to handle. the lazy people are those who are satisfied with the answers that are fed unto them into which they do not have the capacity to question. it's easy to believe, but it's too much work to think. that's why 70% of the world population believe in GOD---because it's too much of a bother to THINK. we as a society are dumbing down, sad to say.

Reading the book is easy, living the book is a struggle. You claim faith is easy, yet you do not posses it. 70% say they believe in a God and then say they do not believe in Satan. If you read the Bible it states that Satan is a real being. That means they have not read the book or choose to denial over the word of God. That is not having faith, that is just talking words. Some of us have lived long lives and have devoted much more time researching and in contemplation on this subject. You think that if some has faith in the Bible that they are stupid, where I believe those who do not believe are foolish. In the end we will find out who is right.

If you are right then I would have lived a structured live in service of my fellow man. I would have been a good husband, father, friend, and neighbor. I will have still lived an incredible life and would have done things few will ever be able to do. I will die and then the long sleep and in 100 years who will even care I lived.

If you are wrong and have not made peace with God and accepted his word. You may be in for the shock of your life. Imagine spending an eternity as a charcoal briquette, with a lot of time to ponder your mistake. There is no do-overs because you only get one shot, and you could die tomorrow, next week, month, year, maybe not until 80 years from now. But death is coming for all of us and most of us will not be ready, and there are no do-overs. God I am sure will like the Harry Potter reference. He will probably ask you why his word was just too hard for your clever mind to grasp.

[jamesmusslewhite]

Quote: Originally Posted by schmuck question, how do you know that the "God" you currently believe in, is not one of Satan's tricks? eng eng eng...

Truth is there is no way to know until death or the Second coming which ever comes first. The Bible says that this is Satan's ream and the Hebrew have been hunted as their prophet had predicted. Satan hates the Jew, and Christ was a Jewish Rabbi and the Bible is a Hebrew book. I am not Hebrew rather I am a Gentile. I look at the historical aspect and the complexities of the original Hebrew text (Bible Codes) the prophecies of the text and the historical events. I read translated versions of the Dhammapada, Bhagavad Gita, Upanishads, Orah, Nevi'im, Ketuvim, Tao Te Chin, The Apocrypha, Old Testament, New Testament, Several Hidden books, the Qur'an, Egyptian Book of the Dead, New Age, Occult, Demonology, and half a dozen North American Indians beliefs and Prophecies. I also have read more science text than most. I read, learned, observed, compared, weighed, and then chose to be a Born Again Christian and follow the teachings of Christ.

Hebrew text predicted the coming of the Christ and he came as written 1,300 years before his birth. The New Testament tell of his teachings, and his second coming. The events of the world today are fulfilling the prophecies of the New Testament, and half a dozen other text and prophetic writings. I am very comfortable with my choice.

That is why I laugh when someone tells me how by being a Christian makes me brain-dead or close-minded, especially a youngster with only a few distorted bias books and a couple of years on the subjects. They will have to spend 12 years of hard reading and research before they even earn the right to make such a statement. I know the years I have devoted in research and fellowship with religious authorities of eight different religions. They call me close-minded and they have not even learned how to use their minds yet. I am so far pass them that they will take another decade to even begin to figure everything out. They are only being trendy, arrogant, smug, and displaying an ignorant close-mindedness that far exceeds that which they accuse me of.

I have two questions for you,
a.) How do you know that you are not being used as a tool by Satan, and being used to take the faith of a loyal follower of GOD and Christ?
b.) And if you are being Satan's tool, do you think GOD of Christ will be pleased with you?

[chad_tukes]

not to disrespect you or anything, but again and again, just because you are at the prime of your life and have lots of experience doesn't make you wiser than any of us. a lot of Atheists devoted their lives in various research and believe that God is nothing more than a scientific hypothesis. HE CANNOT BE PROVEN NOR DISPROVEN. you, on the other hand, as a scientist devoted 12 years of hard research and concluded that there is a GOD. if that is so, why can't you prove it? you only prove it through your faith which just doesn't cut it.

anyway, James reminds me of Kurt Wise. read about him here:

Kurt Wise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia