How to stop or solve the poverty in the Philippines?

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Quote: Originally Posted by lasgaw what did the japanese do by the way? and why can't we learn from them?

gihtagan sila money sa US.. pero murag loan to siya.. pati ang germany to ebuild their nation.. ummmm ang west ra diay kay ang east russia man ang nitabang... anyway.. maayo pag manage sa gihatg na money... dili gipataka... ug spend.. gi protektahan ang ila own industry and business... before pag japan made kay bati gyud karon kay dili na... well even before ww2 maayo namn ang uban industry sa germany... na continue pag human sa ww2.. hatagn man sila money...

pero guhtagn man sad ta oi... ambot asa na...

[al1974]

The Japanese government called on their business leaders after the war and they asked their help in rebuilding their nation. The business leaders then agreed to do their part by ensuring quality products that will dominate the global arena. And yes, they were able to accomplish it. Some of those brands are Sony, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc. They have responded to how the US destroyed them by creating quality products that have invaded the US and global market.

Korea is following the same track- with global giants as Samsung, Kia, Hyundai etc... which is also taking on the world market.

And the Philippines is also taking on the global market- by sending OFWs-- our most saleable export workforce. What a pity.

[Dakota]

The world has had the means to eliminate poverty for 40 or 50 years now. The tool used has been foreign aid. The problem with foreign aid is that it is stolen by the corrupt 3rd world politiicans and never reaches the needy. Another issue with foriegn aid is that it is viewed as an entitlement to those who receive it and not as startup capital for a new future.

Countries like Japan, South Korea, Germany, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore were able to lift themselves out of poverty with capitalism and free trade. Even China and India today are making great strides in the standard living of their residents with booming economies, prior to the global recession. Note, non-communists residents in western China are revolting because of an uneven distribution of wealth. The Commuist party is attempting to keep the lionshare for itself. It will eventually lead to a new politicial system over time.

So the question now becomes how can the Philippines create more opportunities for capitalism and free trade?

The Philippines has an appropriate political structure, democratic, to provide a framework for a effective goverment. Why doesn't it work?

Performing a root cause analysis on these issues could identify some interesting causes and maybe next steps and hopefully solutions

[foolonthehill]

Dakota,

Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution

Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause.

And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers.

It's that simple.

Now, mr. wall street executive,.

why dont you answer your own questions?

Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us)

Answer your own questions!

And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author

(how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower.

and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic

as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.)

Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate.

dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota

Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is?

Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?

Quote: Originally Posted by Dakota The Philippines has an appropriate political structure, democratic, to provide a framework for a effective goverment. Why doesn't it work? Performing a root cause analysis on these issues could identify some interesting causes and maybe next steps and hopefully solutions

[scriptologist]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vince Russo Ah... So you feel that the poverty here in the Philippines is America's fault? Hmmmm... Can you be more specific (and more current), "scriptologist"?

No, it's not america, there are people ( some americans that are members on the big money sector ) planning a grand scheme using their money to manipulate the world.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Quote: Originally Posted by al1974 The Japanese government called on their business leaders after the war and they asked their help in rebuilding their nation. The business leaders then agreed to do their part by ensuring quality products that will dominate the global arena. And yes, they were able to accomplish it. Some of those brands are Sony, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc. They have responded to how the US destroyed them by creating quality products that have invaded the US and global market. Korea is following the same track- with global giants as Samsung, Kia, Hyundai etc... which is also taking on the world market. And the Philippines is also taking on the global market- by sending OFWs-- our most saleable export workforce. What a pity.

see napaka important na exportation... therefore we must strengthen our local industries and businesses.. locala companies must be innovative to be able to compete with the world market... ngayon kung naka hyperwage agad sa tingin mo magagawa yun ng mga local companies?

in our case daku kaayo ta ug import na less ug export...

anyway meron na tayon San MIguel at JOlibee.. hahahaha...

[cypher86]

Quote: Originally Posted by mannyamador Poverty existed here way before the US (or Spain) colonized the Philippines.

I LoL'd at this.

Wikipedia
Poverty is the shortage of common things such as food, clothing, shelter and safe drinking water, all of which determine the quality of life.

Merriam-Webster
the state of one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possession


by wikipedia's definition we are definitely richer before we were colonized by spain

by Merriam-Webster's definition we are also richer prior to colonization when relative to ourselves since its says "socially acceptable" and i believe prior to colonization, wealth distribution was pretty adequate. at the very least, i assume everyone had the bare necessities fullfilled.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dakota The world has had the means to eliminate poverty for 40 or 50 years now. The tool used has been foreign aid. The problem with foreign aid is that it is stolen by the corrupt 3rd world politiicans and never reaches the needy. Another issue with foriegn aid is that it is viewed as an entitlement to those who receive it and not as startup capital for a new future. Countries like Japan, South Korea, Germany, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore were able to lift themselves out of poverty with capitalism and free trade. Even China and India today are making great strides in the standard living of their residents with booming economies, prior to the global recession. Note, non-communists residents in western China are revolting because of an uneven distribution of wealth. The Commuist party is attempting to keep the lionshare for itself. It will eventually lead to a new politicial system over time. So the question now becomes how can the Philippines create more opportunities for capitalism and free trade? The Philippines has an appropriate political structure, democratic, to provide a framework for a effective goverment. Why doesn't it work? Performing a root cause analysis on these issues could identify some interesting causes and maybe next steps and hopefully solutions

kanang mahadlok lang ko ang free trade ba kay murag alkansi ta kay makasulod lang ang products sa lain nasud then ang atong products kay mura man gud dili pa ready... except for a few...

should we first strenthen our own products and industries...

mahimo nya lang ta ana kuha-aan sa materials then market sa finished products...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Quote: Originally Posted by foolonthehill Dakota, Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause. And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers. It's that simple. Now, mr. wall street executive,. why dont you answer your own questions? Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us) Answer your own questions! And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower. and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.) Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate. dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is? Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?

bro kalma lang... smart kaayo si bentulan nag-alsa gani siya kaugalingon bangko... i got tired of reading the book... pwede tanggalin yung tungkol sa kanya at blah-blah and go straight to the point...

"its easy to make something long that can actually be said in two sentences..."

[cypher86]

The part above regarding Merriam-Websters definition is a bit more complicated upon second reading.
what we consider socially acceptable today isn't quite the same as before.

having considered that time prior to colonization, our primitive soceity has viewed most of "what was" as acceptable. To put it simply most of what is socially acceptable is what you can really see around you way back when. where as now what is socially acceptable is contradictory to what we see on the streets.

i know its kind of confusing, but its a bit hard to convey ideas across such a constricting medium.

[Vince Russo]

Quote: Originally Posted by foolonthehill Dakota, Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause. And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers. It's that simple. Now, mr. wall street executive,. why dont you answer your own questions? Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us) Answer your own questions! And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower. and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.) Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate. dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is? Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?

Ouch! Really angry...

[grovestreet]

how would hyperwage theory address the issue of technological unemployment?

[Vince Russo]

Quote: Originally Posted by foolonthehill Dakota, Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause. And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers. It's that simple. Now, mr. wall street executive,. why dont you answer your own questions? Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us) Answer your own questions! And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower. and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.) Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate. dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is? Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?

Wow! foolonthehill came out swinging like the UFC with this post.. Wham! Bam! Smack! Pow! There's blood everywhere... I'm too battered to reply. Is it just me, or does nothing she says seem to make any sense? Maybe it's the erratic sentence structure or weird double spacing that's throwing me off.

Foolonthehill, I have never professed to have the solution. If I had the actual remedy, I wouldn't be wasting my time arguing with you, would I? I've only pointed out some things that seem like reasonable approaches to the problem. But, since I won't kneel before you and become a Bentulan disciple, you reject my entire life experience as being utterly meaningless in your grand scheme of things. Why don't you try to learn from those posters who you confront with such ferocity? They are offering you an array of "real world" business experiences, and you dismiss the knowledge that they share with you EVERY TIME. You might find that you don't actually know as much as you think you do. That's sometimes called an epiphany, and it may change your life for the better.

Give me a minute to put my helmet on before you launch your attack reply... Thanks

[Tarmac]

Quote: Originally Posted by foolonthehill Dakota, Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause. And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers. It's that simple. Now, mr. wall street executive,. why dont you answer your own questions? Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us) Answer your own questions! And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower. and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.) Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate. dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is? Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?

You should know, Mr. Foolonthehill. You and Thads Bentulan are one and the same, seeing as how you speak for how him so intimately and how personally aggrieved you have been and lashed out at anyone contesting or questioning your theory.

The part about devoting half of the book to the author's conceit must've really ruffled you no?

That's so pathetic. So, so pathetic.

To borrow unsayngalan's term, emo ra kaayo ka.


P.S. Please don't accuse me of any inability to see hyperbole or parody because you didn't see that in my earlier posts either. Unless what I said hurt because they had a larger element of truth than you were willing to allow?


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[Tarmac]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vince Russo Wow! foolonthehill came out swinging like the UFC with this post.. Wham! Bam! Smack! Pow! There's blood everywhere... I'm too battered to reply. Is it just me, or does nothing she says seem to make any sense? Maybe it's the erratic sentence structure or weird double spacing that's throwing me off. Foolonthehill, I have never professed to have the solution. If I had the actual remedy, I wouldn't be wasting my time arguing with you, would I? I've only pointed out some things that seem like reasonable approaches to the problem. But, since I won't kneel before you and become a Bentulan disciple, you reject my entire life experience as being utterly meaningless in your grand scheme of things. Why don't you try to learn from those posters who you confront with such ferocity? They are offering you an array of "real world" business experiences, and you dismiss the knowledge that they share with you EVERY TIME. You might find that you don't actually know as much as you think you do. That's sometimes called an epiphany, and it may change your life for the better. Give me a minute to put my helmet on before you launch your attack reply... Thanks

Don't worry, Vince. This is all hyperbole. A parody by the author. Or do you not see it?!?