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Old 06-24-2009, 10:16 AM
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There will always be oligarchs that is why:
increase our wages by law so that we can have at least a fighting chance.

So convince na kayo? Let us not fight Hyperwage. let us support it. Dont worry about your supposed inflation or unemployment etc.

Let the business decide that they are rich anyway. and they will become richer bec now all the workers will spend that money anyway?




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Exactly! We have been systematically forced to be "poor" by d oligarchy & it is in their greedy interest to caninely serve d Monopoly Capitalists.

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Old 06-24-2009, 10:21 AM
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reality check
99% of workers are working hard (the owner are the ones not working hard)
99% are not spending unncessary (bec they dont even have money for the necessary!)





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strive hard and don't spend a lot on unnecessary things...

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Old 06-24-2009, 10:22 AM
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99% of Pinoys are patriotic

so, what now?



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The best way to minimize poverty is to promote patriotism.

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Old 06-24-2009, 10:24 AM
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If theres no politics tomorrow:
1. and you still get P260 /day
2 and you need P700 per NSO

so what now, will the poor be better?

focus on the issue. the poor and politics are not directly related.




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stop too much politics jud........

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Old 06-24-2009, 10:35 AM
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Our literacy rate is one of the highest in the world Over 95%, i think. we have more college graduates than the entire population of Singapore..
agree but do we have quality education here? guess not. our grade school pupils are lagging behind in math and science compared to our advanced neighboring countries like japan or singapore or maybe my standards are just too high. how many among our english graduates can speak and write fluent english? i know some teachers here who don't know correct grammar and spelling.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:37 AM
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for me increasing wage is not the solution since it would also mean higher prices of commodities. perhaps we should encourage self reliance economy. back to farming is not a bad idea if only our government would support them.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:33 PM
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99% of Pinoys are patriotic

so, what now?
we idolize the product of they other country. is what you call 99% patriotic.na influence man gani na atong mga youth sa mga american trend nga fashion..be realistic brad....
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:51 PM
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we idolize the product of they other country. is what you call 99% patriotic.na influence man gani na atong mga youth sa mga american trend nga fashion..be realistic brad....
asa kaha ni nga survey nakuha? think 80% of the employable pinoys kung tagaan chance maka US visa manglarga man dayon. is that patriotism? ako nailhan dili na ganahan mang abroad kana na man lang retirables. think most of us are Pinoy's by chance not by choice.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:55 PM
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opinion naman lang na brad...respetohay lang gud mao manha ako opinion to promote patriotism...pero dli ko agree nga 99% are patriotic kay as what u have said nga manglarga sila gawas...pero para na ko promote patriotism is the best way gud to solve poverty...tanawa lang gud na japan progressive country becoz they promote patriotism.....
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asa kaha ni nga survey nakuha? think 80% of the employable pinoys kung tagaan chance maka US visa manglarga man dayon. is that patriotism? ako nailhan dili na ganahan mang abroad kana na man lang retirables. think most of us are Pinoy's by chance not by choice.
try to look at our government system and the economic that we have bro...natural mang larga gud sa gawas kay dli man progressive ang country.
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lisora ani nga ? daghan factors na dapat nato hunahunaon... pero ug boot nato makab.ot nga mahimong hamugaway atong knabuhi, magkugi lang ug maayo pakapinan ug disiplina... apan maglisod ta ug establisar ani kung mismo atong gobyerno nagapabadlong sad... pero atong sugdang... busa AKO MISMO...
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try to look at our government system and the economic that we have bro...natural mang larga gud sa gawas kay dli man progressive ang country.
hehe mao bitaw dili ko mo agree nga patriotic ang pinoy. ako love nako ako country pero mas love nako ako family that's why ganahan ko mo abroad. i don't think i am super patriotic kay kung ana pa ko moantos lang gyud ko diri bahala maglisud. just like marriage. kung love nimo ang person mo stick gyud ka bisan maglisud mong duha. why serve companies/people in other countries if i truly loved my country.

perception ra ni nako bro. dont want to argue with anybody.
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hehe mao bitaw dili ko mo agree nga patriotic ang pinoy. ako love nako ako country pero mas love nako ako family that's why ganahan ko mo abroad. i don't think i am super patriotic kay kung ana pa ko moantos lang gyud ko diri bahala maglisud. just like marriage. kung love nimo ang person mo stick gyud ka bisan maglisud mong duha. why serve companies/people in other countries if i truly loved my country.

perception ra ni nako bro. dont want to argue with anybody.
na sad kai point bro...no need to worry bro kay dli ko in anha na pagka taw as long dli lang ko e personal attack...
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Hmmm, interesting discussion...

So what third world country has implemented hyperwage successfully? No pointing to highly-developed countries that have high wages now. Rather, what third world country has clawed out of third-world status and joined the developed world by using this hyperwage theory? Or at least some semblance of it?
No third world country have yet applied the Hyperwage Theory. The said theory is an original theory weaved out by Mr. Thads Bentulan- a Boholano, graduate of USCTC, Top of the Class, a columnist of the Business World, have traveled far and wide, known to most businessmen as the Street Strategist.

There is a chapter in the book that discusses a certain area in US which had troubles in their economy. Instead of trying other means to stimulate economic activity, what they did was to increase the salaries scales. Surprisingly, imperical data of that area indicated a growth in the economy and even an increase in employment.

I am an advocate to this theory because I have read it and understood it. Read it FULLY and then you will understand where the author and all the pro-Hyperwage people are coming from.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:09 PM
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agree but do we have quality education here? guess not. our grade school pupils are lagging behind in math and science compared to our advanced neighboring countries like japan or singapore or maybe my standards are just too high. how many among our english graduates can speak and write fluent english? i know some teachers here who don't know correct grammar and spelling.
bro, the reasons why we have poor education are the following:
1. Our best teachers are already out of the country. Read: brain drain. And yes Singapore and Hongkong students are very good because they have educated maids who tutors them.
2. Some of the best teachers are working as maids in hyperwage countries
3. The teachers can not focus on teaching. Why? because they have problems on money due to very low salaries. Notice that there used to be a joke- tanang loan nakuha na sa mga teachers- porlon na lang kulang. With low salaries, the teachers are no longer motivated. It used to be a noble profession. I hope it still is.
4. Yes we are lagging behind Japan and Singapore- why, because their teachers are higly paid and they will have to work well commensurate to their payroll.
5. Our students here have a hard time learning. Why? because they have empty stomachs. You go to public schools and you will know that a lot of them go to school without breakfast and probably no baon.
6. The same students do not have access to books and basic needs. They go home to their unemployed parents and later they stopped studying to beg on the streets or start peddling stuffs to earn at a very young age.

And by the way- even if we improve our educational system and still have very low minimum salaries, it will never improve our poverty condition.

Again- Hyperwage is the single ultimate solution to poverty.
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