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    THE COMING NEW AGE CHRIST OF THE OCCULT



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    What's wrong with the GNOSTIC GOSPELS, Are There Secret Writings About Jesus?

    Galatians 1:8
    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    Mtthew 24:24
    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

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    In 1945 a discovery was made in Upper Egypt, near the town of Nag Hammadi. Fifty-two copies of ancient writings, called the Gnostic gospels were found in 13 leather-bound papyrus codices (handwritten books). They were written in Coptic and belonged to a library in a monastery.

    A few Gnostic scholars have gone so far as to assert that these recently discovered writings are the authentic history of Jesus instead of the New Testament. But does their faith in these documents square with the historical evidence? Let’s take a deeper look to see if we can separate truth from fiction.

    Secret “Knowers”

    The Gnostic gospels are attributed to a group known as (big surprise here) the Gnostics. Their name comes from the Greek word gnosis, meaning “knowledge.” These people thought they had secret, special knowledge hidden from ordinary people.

    As Christianity spread, the Gnostics mixed some doctrines and elements of Christian*ity into their beliefs, morphing Gnosticism into a counterfeit Christianity. Perhaps they did it to keep recruitment numbers up and make Jesus a poster child for their cause. However, for their system of thought to fit with Christianity, Jesus needed to be rein*vented, stripped of both his humanity and his absolute deity.

    In The Oxford History of Christianity John McManners wrote of the Gnostics’ mixture of Christian and mythical beliefs.

    Gnosticism was (and still is) a theoso*phy with many ingredients. Occult*ism and oriental mysticism became fused with astrology, magic. … They collected sayings of Jesus shaped to fit their own interpretation (as in the Gospel of Thomas), and offered their adherents an alternative or rival form of Christianity.

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    there are no gnostic documents known to predate the New Testament. - See more at: Gnosticism: Salvation by Secret Knowledge

    share what you have in mind about this topic......THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE!
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    The Gnostic Gospels

    Faith Defenders | THE GNOSTIC GOSPELS
    Introduction
    It has become quite popular on college campuses for atheistic professors to attack Christianity by stating that Gnosticism was the "original" Christianity. Thus the Christian student today has to have a basic understanding of Gnosticism in order to defend the faith (Jude 3).

    l. The Early Christian Church rejected various fake gospels produced by a Greek mystery religion called Gnosticism which attempted to absorb Christianity. The Apostle Paul attacked Gnosticism directly in Colossians while John attacked it in I and II John and Revelation. Every subsequent Church Father and council attacked the Gnostics. At no point did the Christian Church accept Gnosticism.

    2. The Gnostics denied the existence of the Biblical personal/infinite God, monotheism, the Trinity and that Jesus was human and divine. They even denied that He was Christ! Jesus, to them, was simply a link in the chain of Being. They also denied Jesus died for our sins and His bodily resurrection. The Gnostics rejected the Old Testament and New Testament and drew upon Eastern ideas such as Reincarnation and pantheism.

    3. While the New Testament began within ten to fifteen years of the death of Jesus (A.D. 33) and we have a fragment of Mark which can be dated AD 50 and Luke AD 57, the vast majority of the Gnostic gospels were not written until late into the third and fourth centuries.

    4. The Gnostics had a stronghold in Egypt and some fourth century manuscripts have been found in Nag Hammadi. These false gospels contained historical and literary blunders which reveal that they were not written in the first century. Their literary style is drastically different from the New Testament and they exalt absurd stories of Jesus' childhood such as:

    a.Jesus would make clay birds and change them into real ones.
    b.While playing hide and seek, Jesus searched for some children in a particular house into which they had run. When He came to the door and asked the mother if there were any children inside she said, "No, only kids." Outraged, Jesus turned all of the children into goats.
    c.Jesus had a twin brother.
    d.Jesus had sexual involvement with various women.

    5. In John 2:ll, the Apostle John stated that the first miracle Jesus did was turning the water into wine at the wedding of Cana. The Gnostic materials, which are filled with absurd miracles of the child Jesus, cannot be viewed as valid in the light of John 2:ll.

    6. Certain newspaper writers sensationalized the finding of the Gnostic gospels as they did the finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Once scholars had a chance to translate these works nothing new was discovered that was not already known from the writings of the early Church Fathers. The Early Church never said or pretended that these fake gospels did not exist. The Church never hid anything from anybody. They showed that these were spurious works.

    7. While the New Testament is organically linked to the Old Testament, the Gnostic works reject the existence of God, the creation of the world out of nothing, the goodness of matter and flesh, the necessity of a substitutionary blood atonement, etc. Whereas Christianity is an extension of Old Testament Judaism, Gnosticism is an extension of Eastern religions such as Buddhism.

    8. No Biblical scholar today feels that there is any significance to the Gnostic works beyond that of historical curiosity as to what this mystery religion believed. Since none of them were written in the first century and they did not appear until several hundred years after Christ, they are worthless as a guide to Jesus' life. The first century New Testament, written by the Apostles who were eye-witnesses and friends of Jesus Christ, is logically and historically a superior guide to the life and teaching of Jesus.

    9. Christianity triumphed over Gnosticism because of the superiority of the Biblical Gospel. While such writers as Pagels try to prove that Christianity triumphed because of its political structure, this is a very superficial position. We must ask on what basis did the early Fathers have political authority in the Church? The Orthodox position won out because it was in harmony with the Old Testament and New Testament and descended from the Apostles and other eye-witnesses. It was rooted in the historical bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ as a real space/time event which was verified by over 500 eye-witnesses. Gnosticism was built on myth and subjectionism.

    10. Modern forms of Gnosticism attempt to discount the New Testament and appeal to the Nag Hammadi texts as "Lost Bibles". This is historically and theologically absurd. The attempt to identify Gnosticism as a part of Early Christianity is doomed to failure once it is understood that Gnosticism existed before Christianity appeared and that it tried to absorb all the religions it encountered. It was clearly denounced as "Anti-christ" by the Apostles and Church Fathers. It never represented Biblical or Historic Christianity. Since the Gnostic "gospels" attack the New Testament, it is obvious that the New Testament existed before them.

    11. There is but one eternal personal infinite God who created the world out of nothing. This God eternally existed in three centers of consciousness or personality which the New Testament identifies as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This Triune God has done all that is necessary for man's forgiveness and salvation. Jesus Christ was incarnate as a real man and died a real death. He was bodily raised from the dead, having paid off all the punishment that God's Law demands. Christ's death makes Karmic reincarnation unnecessary. Jesus has paid it all. Our responsibility is to repent of our sin and to accept Jesus Christ as the Lord of all of life.

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    mao d i..tuo nako......
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    lain napud ni da.. mo migrate npud unya ang buddhist dri
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    naghimo gyud ka ug thread bro, nindot ni, the more gyud ni mahibaw-an ron kung unsa inyong religion. hehehe.

    occult bro means hidden/secret. matawag na ug secret/hidden/occult sa public but not to the students of the original Christianity, a school centered on "Christ" where students are taught intensively on Christ and God. Regarding secret teachings, it is written in the bible and Jesus taught about it.

    Gnosis means knowledge. It is not just a belief on Christ and God like your religion, it is the knowledge. When we say knowledge there is a detailed explanation, students are tested on their knowledge, and experiments are conducted. it is one of the oldest sciences.

    Ang inyong Christianity was a version of Saul/Paul. He was not a direct student of Jesus so he did not have full knowledge about what really Christ is. He got the info during the persecutions of original Christians, the students of Christianity. Jesus already warned his students:

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    We, students of the true Christianity (school) are taught what really Christ is. We are given also a meditation that can awaken the Christ in us. it is the same that Jesus taught to his disciples or direct students. A student is personally guided by a teacher who had performed and actually had experienced the Christ in them already. No instructions were ever written to protect the teachings. Saul/Paul was not a direct student of Jesus unlike Matthew, John, Luke and Mark. And he was not a student of any direct students of Jesus.

    If you check Matt. 24:5, he already warned his direct students that many shall come in his name saying He is Christ. And that many would be deceived. And also Matt. 24:23, Jesus warned them that don't believe saying here or there is Christ.

    On Acts 9:5, Saul/Paul is telling that he met Jesus though he did not clearly see, only a light. And that Jesus actually talked to him. Then after that on other verse, Saul/Paul preached that Jesus is Christ which the new Christianity (religion) is now believing. But Jesus already warned those to his disciples/direct students.

    Matthew 24
    King James Version (KJV)
    4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25 Behold, I have told you before.

    Acts 9
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    9 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
    2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
    3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
    4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
    5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

    6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
    7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.[/B]
    8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
    9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    lain napud ni da.. mo migrate npud unya ang buddhist dri
    OT - nindot ni bro pra alegre...

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    daan pa lage ko

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    @jovs

    Wala jud problema nang knowledge bro, in fact mao nay insakto para makasabot ta sa kamatuoran! but be careful of whose knowledge imong gi-harbor coz dili tanang knowledge is beneficial sa atoa. You have to consider naay forbidden knowledge which is makadaut sa atoa like in the garden of eden nga gi restrict sa ginoo. Ang true knowledge bro that will lead us to life is the Knowledge in Christ Jesus, dili ang imong opening of the third eye sa Buddhist concept!

    2 Corinthians 4:6
    For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, has shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

    What is the TRUE GOSPEL?

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    ENOUGH!!!! Lol! ...carry on mga brad..hahaha

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    for my atheists brothers like @xian, @kid and @kit, kasagaran ninyo nahimong atheists ky bec of the belief of the theists mostly christians which para ninyo walai proof ilang belief. sakto mo bro ky a belief cannot be proven otherwise it will be called knowledge. mostly rely mo sa science, but wala mo kabalo nga naay science of Christ ug God. Usa na ana mao ning gitawag ug Gnosticism. Naa mi laboratory to conduct experiments on Christ and God. And it is proven nga tinood na sila. Ang inyong mga gi idolized nga mga scientists nga kunuhay mga atheists, wala daw nitoo ug Ginoo, wala mo kabalo puro na sila nagstudy sa science about God and some Christ. Mao na sila kasagaran moingon nga impersonal God bec they already had knowledge about God, and that impersonal ang God bec of the experiments that they had done. I give you one example si Thomas Edison who was only 3 months sa iyang skwela, a dropout, unya had hearing problems. He studied the science of God, unsa ang resulta?

    Since proven namo ang existence sa Christ ug God, it was ask to our teacher nganong naay mga atheists. The reason daw naay mga atheists, ky sa tanto tanto nilang deny sa existence of God, kada reincarnation nila dili na gyud na sila makaila pa ug God ky gibutang na daan sa ilang mga brain pagkatawo pa lng daan nga dili sila kaila unsa ang God.

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