Comic book drawing club/Comics movement here in Cebu!

[zerk]

Quote: Originally Posted by cmontoya Hi zerk, Does USC TC's College of Architecture and Fine Arts accept non-credit students? I don't need to take all Fine Arts subjects like TV Arts, Photojournalism, Art Appreciation, etc. You teacher there?

nope, and i have no idea. self study nalang bai.. post your works here for some critiques..

and lastly practice, practice and practice some more. sketch whenever you have a chance. it works.

[zerk]

Quote: Originally Posted by cmontoya Hi guys, Sorry for the late reply. Before, I answer I want you all to know that I'm not a professional artist. I start and stop, start again and stop again learning to draw. However, self-studying is a drag because art is learned via examples first before one can define their unique style. My answers: 1) Hmm what genre of comicbooks are you into anyway? I like two genres. Erotic and cartoon. For erotic art, I hope to someday (kung di pa ko mamatay before then) to learn how to draw like Manara or better, Serpieri. I also like Horacio Altuna. For cartoon art, I like Caldwell's http://www.daredetectives.com/. I own his Action! Cartooning book and I look forward to buying his Fantasy Cartooning. Frustrated fine artist man gud ko. Gi-discourage ko sa akong erpats kuha Fine Arts kay wa kuno wawarts ani na field. So nag-comp-sci na lang ko. Kung makadaug ko lotto, undang man ko trabaho ba then balik eskwela Fine Arts. If I only could turn back the time, ... 2) . asa ta eskwela ana drawing comics SuKoLmo teaches manga style drawing for free. I'm not sure if they still have sessions in Mango Square Mall though. Visit Tyke's comic book store and ask. Ang initial style sa SuKolMo murag Jedi. Naa usa ka master, naa usa ka apprentice. And the good thing about it is that the master doesn't charge a fee. They do it for the love of the art. Mag-sinabot lang sa oras ug adlaw magkita. 3) organize ug bag-o club, bai. join ko... http://zerk.deviantart.com/gallery/ Bai, I don't think you need to learn. You need to teach Plus, you could submit your portfolio to www.glasshousegraphics.com bai. While I'm a good manager, I'm not artistically skilled. So kung organization inyo gusto pwede ko katabang ani. Pero the actual course outline should be defined by the talented artists here (i.e. contour drawing, negative space, form, rhythm, tonal value, perspective, anatomy, etc.) I also think we should at least pay the instructor his or her due. I mean kung 10 ta kabuok, then pitch in ta 50, then naa siya 500 bucks per session. Unless ganahan dyud siya teach for free. --- side note --- By the way, sa Buy and Sell section I'm selling some art books at discounted prices. Kung musugot mo, ako i-copy there. Huwat lang ko tubag senior member like Senor Joze. I think this is better than buying new books at National. I also take very good care of my books. You can ask Messenger, the person who bought my Flash books re the condition of my books

bai, I dont think im qualified to teach. your artbooks is a start... but the good ones are available free on the net. google for andrew loomis' book on anatomy. if you got your anatomy pinned you can do any style you want, be it frazettaish, anime, graffiti or jimleeish.

[cmontoya]

Hi zerk,

How do I upload images here?

--- Self-study, practice, sketch ---

I guess you're right zerk. There was a time when I did and I did see
some improvement (not awesome mind you but definitely better).
However, I stopped because I am pre-occupied learning Flash MX
actionscripting -> pang sideline

--- Andrew Loomis free e-book ---
Yes, I found two of his e-books purely by accident. One on
anatomy and one on heads (from baby to old people).

--- Another good out-of-stock anatomy e-book ---
Bai, I'm still googling for this one. Have you found it?

Draw from Your Head: A Step-By-Step System for Drawing the Human
Figure Without a Model
by Doug Jamieson

http://www.redskybooks.net/cgi-bin/rsb455/011214.html

--- pinning down anatomy ---

You're absolutely right too. My tutor said that if one can draw the face
and the body, then one can draw almost anything.

Cge bai, salamat for replying.

[zerk]

Get an account at www.photobucket.com use the image tag and post it n the messageboard.

oh.. it's alright to trace or copy IMO just give due credit to the person youre copying from. and from there, you can develop your own style. look at bryan hitch, roger cruz and terry dodson. they started out as clones but later in their career became artist in their own right. di ba?

[cmontoya]

I don't recognize theh names you mentioned but I'll look them up

--- maiba ako ---

zerk, I wonder what kind of clothes superheroes or supervillains wear? You can
actually see the rips of their muscles. In real life, people have to be in the nude
to show their rips. Even the tightest leotards wouldn't allow us to see rips, only
the main muscle masses. Comic book heroes seemed to have their costumes
body painted on them. He he.

This is the reason why I like Alex Ross's art. Realistic.

[zerk]

bai, if youre interested in comic making .. recommended reading is scott mcdaniel's understanding comcs. i have a copy... you cant find it at national's pero you can try powerbooks. i ordered mine at amazons.


The way i figured out it was out of convenience that superheroes appear that way.. the artist of old must be too lazy to figure out how to draw creases and folds of fabrics.

[starcraft-ghost]

anyone want to see the complete sukol mo issues?

[starcraft-ghost]

i think its best to start a new comics club...
where everyone can join and not be bad mouthed whenever you're not around...
i've been there...
sukol mo was good
but it got twisted...

[vanceloma]

Well that was one of my ideas, the comic making club thingy....

But I don't know where to start.

[Santini]

hey what happened to sukol comics anyway?

[zerk]

ive never read a single sukol. :P old skol ra kaayo ko.

and by the way, cmontoya. I have the late will eisner's book. good read also for those interested in comics.

those artist i mentioned

original - clone
alan davis - bryan hitch (the ultimates)
adam hughes (babemeister) - terry dodson (spiderman)
joe madureira (xmen, battlechasers) - roger cruz (xmen)

[cmontoya]

--- Am I interested in comic book making? ---

Partially. I'm not interested in lettering or script writing.

---- Muscled heroes, heroines, villains, villainess, creases, folds ---

I have Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery. Got it from
Fully Booked. I bought it on impulse but a good book to have once I've
learned basic anatomy.

I also have Jack Hamm's Drawing the Head and The Figure.

Speaking of which, the hardest part for me is the back muscles and
women's breast (which come in different shapes and sizes, grrr).

I mean how do I draw a woman's breast when she's upside down,
leaning, lying down, under water, jumping up and down, etc?

Or, when somebody's, er, manipulating them?

Do I need to buy a balloon and fill it with water or something?

Plus, most anatomy drawing books omit the private parts. They either
don't draw them completely or worst don't. Murag action figure.

Lain man sad kung tan-awon nako ako-a while nag-drawing. Ka weird.

I also have trouble with facial expressions. I know, I know, use a
mirror but I want to draw "erotic" facial expressions. I know, I know,
download, er, "adult" pix

--- Comics making/drawing club ---

I've always wanted to join one but yes, starcraft-ghost, I know what
you mean. I've spoken to some former members and they told me
about the "fragmentation" issue. Sayang no?

--- Drawing weakness in general ---

I can't seem to draw a complete scene. I can draw an individual tree.
I can draw a single person without clothes pa.

But ask me to draw a group of people in a park full of trees, toinks!

I mean how do you start? Layouting? Reference photos?

[zerk]

Quote: Originally Posted by cmontoya Speaking of which, the hardest part for me is the back muscles and women's breast (which come in different shapes and sizes, grrr). I mean how do I draw a woman's breast when she's upside down, leaning, lying down, under water, jumping up and down, etc? Or, when somebody's, er, manipulating them? Do I need to buy a balloon and fill it with water or something? Plus, most anatomy drawing books omit the private parts. They either don't draw them completely or worst don't. Murag action figure. Lain man sad kung tan-awon nako ako-a while nag-drawing. Ka weird. I also have trouble with facial expressions. I know, I know, use a mirror but I want to draw "erotic" facial expressions. I know, I know, download, er, "adult" pix

bai,

adto ta Club Harem for educational purposes.. :P sponsora ko. hhahahaa

Quote: Originally Posted by cmontoya --- Drawing weakness in general --- I can't seem to draw a complete scene. I can draw an individual tree. I can draw a single person without clothes pa. But ask me to draw a group of people in a park full of trees, toinks! I mean how do you start? Layouting? Reference photos?

You can also take photos like Alex Ross. trace like Tim Bradstreet (punisher and blade cover artist). pero for a quickie try www.corbis.com for stock photos. I used to visit several websites.. but the name escapes me right now.

[zerk]

post your drawing already. cmontoya.

[starcraft-ghost]

sukol mo
the pioneer members disbanded along with other members
over personal issues regarding with the founding members...

last i heard from sukol is that they have seminars at tyke's comix shop every saturday...